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		<title>By: Matt Clifton</title>
		<link>http://the7ones.com/2008/03/06/baptism-doth-also-now-save-us/comment-page-1/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

I appreciate your comments. It is true that we can focus on baptism so much that other truths are lost in the shuffle. 

Most &quot;evangelicals&quot; feel that baptism is not necessary for the remission of sins. Because of this, it often seems that the church of Christ spends a lot of time on the subject. This is because teachings on the truth about baptism is so needed in the world because of this neglect by denominations.

Jesus taught that folks have to abide by both the spirit and the letter, Matt. 23:23.

Baptism is the beautiful and necessary culmination of the conversion process, which puts us into Christ, Gal. 3:26-29.

God bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I appreciate your comments. It is true that we can focus on baptism so much that other truths are lost in the shuffle. </p>
<p>Most &#8220;evangelicals&#8221; feel that baptism is not necessary for the remission of sins. Because of this, it often seems that the church of Christ spends a lot of time on the subject. This is because teachings on the truth about baptism is so needed in the world because of this neglect by denominations.</p>
<p>Jesus taught that folks have to abide by both the spirit and the letter, Matt. 23:23.</p>
<p>Baptism is the beautiful and necessary culmination of the conversion process, which puts us into Christ, Gal. 3:26-29.</p>
<p>God bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Clifton</title>
		<link>http://the7ones.com/2008/03/06/baptism-doth-also-now-save-us/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

Thank you for visiting, and for your comments. I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>Thank you for visiting, and for your comments. I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Clifton</title>
		<link>http://the7ones.com/2008/03/06/baptism-doth-also-now-save-us/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanda,

According to the scriptures, the thief on the cross was saved under a different covenant that the in under which we live:

&quot;Heb 9:15  And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. 
Heb 9:16  For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 
Heb 9:17  For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.&quot;

So you see that the covenant of Christ was not instituted until Christ&#039;s death, and therefore baptism was not necessary for the thief in this case. Jesus had the power to forgive sins in any way He chose before His last will and testament came into effect.

Please re-read the above article, and ask yourself if you have placed yourself in line with God&#039;s will in regard to baptism.

Thank you for reading!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanda,</p>
<p>According to the scriptures, the thief on the cross was saved under a different covenant that the in under which we live:</p>
<p>&#8220;Heb 9:15  And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.<br />
Heb 9:16  For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.<br />
Heb 9:17  For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you see that the covenant of Christ was not instituted until Christ&#8217;s death, and therefore baptism was not necessary for the thief in this case. Jesus had the power to forgive sins in any way He chose before His last will and testament came into effect.</p>
<p>Please re-read the above article, and ask yourself if you have placed yourself in line with God&#8217;s will in regard to baptism.</p>
<p>Thank you for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://the7ones.com/2008/03/06/baptism-doth-also-now-save-us/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue isn&#039;t whether being baptized is something Christ asks us to do--He does. There are two extremes--those who don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessary and those who teach it to the point where it&#039;s obvious they believe that is ALL you are supposed to do. BOTH are wrong.

Sadly, there are also those who say it is not an act of faith but &quot;it&#039;s a command, nothing more and nothing else.&quot; I&#039;ve heard sermons with this false teaching in it--they essentially make Christ&#039;s love and teachings meaningless. Making Christ&#039;s beautiful sacrifice of love into a military drill exercise is a perversion of His message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue isn&#8217;t whether being baptized is something Christ asks us to do&#8211;He does. There are two extremes&#8211;those who don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessary and those who teach it to the point where it&#8217;s obvious they believe that is ALL you are supposed to do. BOTH are wrong.</p>
<p>Sadly, there are also those who say it is not an act of faith but &#8220;it&#8217;s a command, nothing more and nothing else.&#8221; I&#8217;ve heard sermons with this false teaching in it&#8211;they essentially make Christ&#8217;s love and teachings meaningless. Making Christ&#8217;s beautiful sacrifice of love into a military drill exercise is a perversion of His message.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://the7ones.com/2008/03/06/baptism-doth-also-now-save-us/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are to make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit...

does it follow that they must be of a mind to become disicples and in that, have the understanding of what they are doing and committing their life to?  I think it does.

Infants have no understanding.  They are without sin. they are babies.  precious minds that are to be nurtured in the ways of God. I will soon have my first child and I strive everyday to prepare myself for that task.

the grace of God to you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are to make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit&#8230;</p>
<p>does it follow that they must be of a mind to become disicples and in that, have the understanding of what they are doing and committing their life to?  I think it does.</p>
<p>Infants have no understanding.  They are without sin. they are babies.  precious minds that are to be nurtured in the ways of God. I will soon have my first child and I strive everyday to prepare myself for that task.</p>
<p>the grace of God to you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanda</title>
		<link>http://the7ones.com/2008/03/06/baptism-doth-also-now-save-us/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Wanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus told the thief on the cross this day you will be with me in paradise. This thief was not baptised, don&#039;t take me wrong water baprism is very important because we are showing the world who we beleive in. But I don&#039;t believe that if you have excepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior I don&#039;t believe water baptisim determines if you will be in heaven or not.There are people in the hospital who except the Lord and they aren&#039;t able to be baptised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus told the thief on the cross this day you will be with me in paradise. This thief was not baptised, don&#8217;t take me wrong water baprism is very important because we are showing the world who we beleive in. But I don&#8217;t believe that if you have excepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior I don&#8217;t believe water baptisim determines if you will be in heaven or not.There are people in the hospital who except the Lord and they aren&#8217;t able to be baptised.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Clifton</title>
		<link>http://the7ones.com/2008/03/06/baptism-doth-also-now-save-us/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Rick, thanks for the comment. 

If one sees faith as something that miraculously comes upon a person, I could see your point. However, the scriptures say that faith comes from hearing the word of God, Romans 10:17. Can an infant hear the Word of God? Can an infant develop faith. Faith is required in order for baptism to be of any use to a person, Col. 2:12. 

Instead of it being necessary to baptize an infant, have you considered that infants are without sin, and therefore in no need of baptism? 

Jesus said:

&quot;and said, &quot;Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.&quot; -- Matt. 18:3

If children are sinful and in need of baptism, why would Jesus say we should be converted and become like them in order to enter the kingdom?

God bless, and thanks for visiting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Rick, thanks for the comment. </p>
<p>If one sees faith as something that miraculously comes upon a person, I could see your point. However, the scriptures say that faith comes from hearing the word of God, Romans 10:17. Can an infant hear the Word of God? Can an infant develop faith. Faith is required in order for baptism to be of any use to a person, Col. 2:12. </p>
<p>Instead of it being necessary to baptize an infant, have you considered that infants are without sin, and therefore in no need of baptism? </p>
<p>Jesus said:</p>
<p>&#8220;and said, &#8220;Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.&#8221; &#8212; Matt. 18:3</p>
<p>If children are sinful and in need of baptism, why would Jesus say we should be converted and become like them in order to enter the kingdom?</p>
<p>God bless, and thanks for visiting!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1Peter 3:21 does indeed show that baptism does play a part in salvation.  It is a means of grace, a way that God gives the gift of salvation (after all, slavation is a gift, not something we do).  And as a result, it is firm justification for infant baptism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1Peter 3:21 does indeed show that baptism does play a part in salvation.  It is a means of grace, a way that God gives the gift of salvation (after all, slavation is a gift, not something we do).  And as a result, it is firm justification for infant baptism.</p>
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